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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:47 PM
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Right so ive decided that im going to get K&N 57i kit but the only problem is that i can't find any down where i live.
Its either giving up or getting a pipercross for about 80 quid.

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EBAY....

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Might have to consider it.
Need one for my GT tho

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You don't want to get an open induction kit for a GT, that will loose you power due to not enough cold air flow in the engine bay, save up a little and get yourself a closed kit.

But if you want the induction noise and not worried about power loose then get the K&N Gen II kit, that comes with a heat shield and a larger cold air feed pipe.

cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-57i...dZViewItem


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You don't want to get an open induction kit for a GT, that will loose you power due to not enough cold air flow in the engine bay, save up a little and get yourself a closed kit.

But if you want the induction noise and not worried about power loose then get the K&N Gen II kit, that comes with a heat shield and a larger cold air feed pipe.

cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-57i...dZViewItem

With an open induction kit it depends entirely where in the engine bay the filter element is placed whether hot air is affecting it or not.

Most of the closed systems suffer from air starvation because they have not been designed properly.

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simon72 wrote:
You don't want to get an open induction kit for a GT, that will loose you power due to not enough cold air flow in the engine bay, save up a little and get yourself a closed kit.

But if you want the induction noise and not worried about power loose then get the K&N Gen II kit, that comes with a heat shield and a larger cold air feed pipe.

cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-57i...dZViewItem

With an open induction kit it depends entirely where in the engine bay the filter element is placed whether hot air is affecting it or not.

Most of the closed systems suffer from air starvation because they have not been designed properly.

My comments were directed at the K&N kit designed for the C2's, due to the where it is mounted you only really get warm air from the engine bay and only a small amount of forced air from a small feeder pipe that is supplied.

But I do agree with your comments, on one of my old cars (OPEL MANTA) I extended the air intake pipe and had the filter cone mounted infront of the radiator behind the nose grill. There it had plenty of cold air and the noise was amazing.


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cheers for the help.
Still considering what to get as the nearest modding shop only have pippercross kits that will fit my car.
So i may get one of them im thinking.

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go for a bmc cda mate! save ur money mine cost £166 from cituing. and i know people diffrent experinces but. its made a huge diffrence to the sound, and theres certainly an improvment in power, o o o it also looks fab Cool


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cheers for the help.
Still considering what to get as the nearest modding shop only have pippercross kits that will fit my car.
So i may get one of them im thinking.

All Piperx I had on the rollers lost power.

BMC CDA is a filter and not an induction kit. You still need a proper ducting to make it an induction kit. In a lot of cases where the CDA was fitted people thought due to characteristics performance improved but actually got worse because of poorly designed ducting. Some goes for Piperx and some others.

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Hey, will the BMC CDA fit onto a 1.1 vibe?

www.cituninguk.com/Pro...?pid=14123

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Hey, will the BMC CDA fit onto a 1.1 vibe?

www.cituninguk.com/Pro...?pid=14123

If you want to use BMC then rather go for the DIA. To make it work CDA and DIA need proper induction piping. The convulated aluminium hose they delicer with either is only good for the bin.

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ITG is the way to go, no design faults in their kit!


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ITG is the way to go, no design faults in their kit!

Have you tested them back to back with others?

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Have you tested all the induction kits on the same C2 with the same mods?


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Have you tested all the induction kits on the same C2 with the same mods?

Would not be possible, but is not necessary. And I think I am pretty safe to claim this after over 27 years of development work in the automotive industries.

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yes it would you just get all the kits then fit them one at a time to the same car and test it. then you say kit a gives you this much of a gain kit b looses you power etc. its a more than possible thing to do


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But which kit from ITG will fit into C2? I've searched, but with no results.

What do you mean by:
"BMC CDA is a filter and not an induction kit. You still need a proper ducting to make it an induction kit. In a lot of cases where the CDA was fitted people thought due to characteristics performance improved but actually got worse because of poorly designed ducting. Some goes for Piperx and some others."

What do you recommend?

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ITG is the way to go, no design faults in their kit!

Have you tested them back to back with others?

What`s your experience of ITG?


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But which kit from ITG will fit into C2? I've searched, but with no results.

I used the one for the peugeot 106, to be honest it was a bit too big for the available space, you`d probably have to move the battery. That`s why the other filters like k+n etc are more popular.


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yes it would you just get all the kits then fit them one at a time to the same car and test it. then you say kit a gives you this much of a gain kit b looses you power etc. its a more than possible thing to do

Do you know how many kits this is? This is half a years salary.

@ voitto - I haven't had a good experience wit ITG. They had a few years in their literature faked graphs and in testing they could not live up to a number of other products.

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I used the one for the peugeot 106, to be honest it was a bit too big for the available space, you`d probably have to move the battery. That`s why the other filters like k+n etc are more popular.

I see... What a pity, they do not make kits for C2 :/ I don't want to do any scuplture in my engine bay Laughing

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yes it would you just get all the kits then fit them one at a time to the same car and test it. then you say kit a gives you this much of a gain kit b looses you power etc. its a more than possible thing to do

Do you know how many kits this is? This is half a years salary.

@ voitto - I haven't had a good experience wit ITG. They had a few years in their literature faked graphs and in testing they could not live up to a number of other products.

They faked graphs? What products proved to be better?


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I used the one for the peugeot 106, to be honest it was a bit too big for the available space, you`d probably have to move the battery. That`s why the other filters like k+n etc are more popular.

I see... What a pity, they do not make kits for C2 :/ I don't want to do any scuplture in my engine bay Laughing


They were going to do a kit for the C2 at one point, whether they still are remains to be seen.


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They faked graphs? What products proved to be better?

One company I can't name, BMC when they get their act together and Green.

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I like green, i`ve used them in my 106 rallycar. I now use itg as i have only ever realised good feedback with their product. Is green a paper element?


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Is green a paper element?

No. Cotton gauze.

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Other people claim they`re not as freeflowing as the itg and they get clogged up easier than the itg.


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There appears to be confusion with induction anyway. The advice is to site the filter (whatever design) in the same location as at maufacture of the respective car, therefore and open type filter is going to draw in hot under bonnet air whilst the car is stationary. Once the car is moving it will still draw in hot air from under bonnet.


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They were going to do a kit for the C2 at one point, whether they still are remains to be seen.
Question is - when?... Rolling Eyes

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